Which Version Father Says?
Good morning to all. Today I wish to share a Rhema Word excerpt.
I will close with some words of my own understanding. It is from my book. As I always say with everyone of us, always try the spirits:
“I Call My People To Come Up Higher“ written on page 123 & 124. You may share as long as this particular Word is left ‘intact”.
10-14-14 “Your Will, Your Way or Mine?”
What I heard the Spirit of The LORD speak: “You think many thoughts that bombard your mind with error many times, My children.
Be approved of Me, My footsteps in the sand. I walk with you . I talk with you. Recovery of the lean years, I say unto your heart, chosen ones.
I AM bringing a blast, a trumpet call for all who hear My voice.
There is a remnant set forth for this hour. This is a remnant who will not bow down to any other God and serve them.
Holy waters do they desire. People who know My voice and will not walk in error.
Still they must examine their hearts, their motives, for the enemy would desire them to lose track. There is nothing hidden that shall not be revealed, little ones.
You want truth, walk in it; the newness of life, ordained for this very hour.
Holy manna from above, tempest tossed are many of you, but I AM bringing you out.
A higher calling and set apart to hear My voice only. Where will it be?
In the church houses, out on the streets, in the midst of a multitude? Wherever you are, there am I in the midst of you.
The Written Word, explore it. I am in it, the pages of My Holy Word.
Still, which one shall you read with so many versions around?
Man errs in his own opinions many times and adds or takes away from My word, daughter.
They decide to write a different version and there you go. Each one is slanted in their own opinion and deceit, unless they are filled with the Holy Ghost and power from above.
Everything that has breath must praise Me daughter. All on the altar, you must lay it all.
Come under subjection and live, period. Father of lights in whom there is no variableness of turning.
“Any version without The Power of God in it is dead.” Believe My Report.
Are there many, are they few? Are they slanted toward one opinion or another? What is truth? What is fallacy?
“The very foundation of the truth is based on the gospel of Jesus Christ period.”
Without Me there is no light in men. How did they go wrong?
They heard it through the grapevine. Some wanted recognition and power of men. Others wanted control, wealth and fame.
Still, there are the pure in heart who sought Me out on the beloved scriptures.
Try My word see if it will stand? Is it pure, undefiled or slanted in man’s opinions?
Be careful My daughters, My sons, for it is the age of much deception.
Rightly divide it for it will set you free.
Throw the rule book away and live unencumbered from bread from above. My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”
(As for me I always stay with the authorized KJV. That is what The LORD gave me and I so truly love it.
Just wondering, how can some ‘thees and thous’ mess us up? Lol
My little granddaughter Destini who is 9 even gets it and understands!
Still I sure wont split hairs or get upset over others who feel to read another version. Just as Father says above, just be careful.
Some versions even take the blood out, the virgin birth and much more. It changes the whole meaning till you have error and fallacy.
Its like when I wrote this word under the unction of the Holy Spirit one of the greatest attacks came from someone who I walked closest to at the time.
I got accused of me saying only KJV. The truth was it was just me yielded to the Spirit of The LORD to hear what was being spoken from The LORD to release.
If you read closely this Word Father was warning to be very careful is all. The Rule book is thrown away!
God bless you all as we seek His face in all matters.)
~ Joyce D. McGuire
My name is Joyce D. McGuire, called to work in and for the Kingdom of God! To lead we must try to follow Jesus Christ closely. That is my heart. I am a Chaplain in the prisons; prophetic intercessor by His grace, author, and a Mother in the Kingdom of God. To many I am simply Mama Joyce. Some favorite verses of mine are Matthew 11:28-30.
Dear Sandi; Shelley; Betty and my dear bro Mark: God bless each and every one of you. Also thank you for the time you took to respond! Good to see you on the ‘comment thread’ here ‘Betty Harmon’!
I thank God for all the years online we worked together in ministry! Also the wonderful Yahweh site and all the people you were able to help and encourage all across the world. Especially your very heart for the persecuted church! Surely no compromise in you!
Not trying just single you out, either. It’s just the day we finally met at my house will forever stay etched in my mind!
An honor ‘General’ to know you.
I love each and every one of you. Let us never divide; but stay in unity!
Let us Watch, pray, and listen to the Fathers heart. ❤
Dear Joyce, (Mark and Shelley)
I am so blessed by the diversity of your comments and as I read them, it came to my mind what a lady spoke to me in a counseling session when I was saying how important it is to hide the word in our heart. She said sometimes in the KJV bible, I don’t really understand the meaning completely so how will it help me to memorize it? I pondered a minute and quietly in my heart said, ‘Lord’? Then I thought wisdom please? I heard Him say, there are many versions of my word and as she puts it in her heart, I will bring the revelation at the right time. Not to ‘split hairs’ over any of the truth you have pointed out, but just was brought to that one thought that sometimes we must realize the one we are speaking to ‘re: which one should we?’ is just not there yet. I use so many versions and particulary like NASB and AMP but for pleasure love to compare with TPT and what I memorized as a child from KJV..and yes, that KJV scripture kept me for a few years when I never wanted to see the “judgemental church” when my husband left me for another woman and I got a divorce…so we never know the “whys” of choice. Love you all, Just wanted to engage with you fabulous friends! Sandi
ahhh. Dear Sandi, a loving perspective….
Again it’s so important to have this rich balance of LOVE with Truth, for it is how Father speaks to our hearts, and how Holy Spirit leads us…and what Jesus modelled for us…
Philippians 2:5
And consider the example that Jesus, the Anointed One, has set before us. Let his mindset become your motivation.
Philippians 2:5 AMPC
Let this same attitude and purpose and [humble] mind be in you which was in Christ Jesus: [Let Him be your example in humility:]
Philippians 2:2 AMPC
Fill up and complete my joy by living in harmony and being of the same mind and one in purpose, having the same love, being in full accord and of one harmonious mind and intention.
Philippians 2:2 tPt
So I’m asking you, my friends, that you be joined together in perfect unity—with one heart, one passion, and united in one love. Walk together with one harmonious purpose and you will fill my heart with unbounded joy. \\0//
My stand by is the KJV. SAME for many great men and women of God, that I’ve trusted. BUT, Now more than ever I try to detect what version they’re referring to, this day, one cannot be too careful. We have a very deceiving enemy.
I do like the KJV/AMP Classic Edition.
I think any translation has got to be as close as possible to the original Hebrew and Greek. This would rule out a couple of modern versions which, strictly speaking, are not translations, since they paraphrase and even add concepts not to be found in the original texts.
Hi Mark, my brother.
Just to note here the last part of the Word in my book I heard from the Lord was:
“Be careful My daughters, My sons, for it is the age of much deception. Rightly divide it for it will set you free.
Throw the rule book away and live unencumbered from bread from above. My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”
We are to surely ‘examine’ the different translations, and not just accept.
E.g. If the blood of Jesus is left out, or Mary being a virgin that changes the gospel. Many years ago I did translation comparisons and saw so many,
(‘not’ saying all was in some serious error) For me I’m just fine and comfortable staying with KJV. Hear my heart please.
Can we just agree to be careful and seek the Lord on this?
Not out of debate but love I felt to write this article. God bless you
Dear Mark Roberts
I appreciate your deep integrity in the Word. Thank you for your careful attention to “rightly dividing” the Word, even as you are “loyal to the Faith” and responsive to Holy Spirit.
Thank you again, Mama Joyce for sharing the Lord’s Word with us…
I hear, “Faithful in season and out”…
2 Timothy 1:13 NKJ
Hold fast the pattern of sound words which you have heard from me, in faith and love which are in Christ Jesus.
2 Timothy 2:15 NKJ
Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
Dear Shelley, Thank you. Much blessing to you in Him! Mark
Dear Joyce, my intention was only to point out the particular dangers I see in the Message and Passion versions and not to dismiss the general danger of any other version that omits the blood of Jesus and His virgin birth. As far as I know, the NKJV too cannot be faulted in this respect.
Yes, I agree to seek the Lord in this and am open to learning more. Blessings in Him, Mark.
Absolutely Mark! God bless you all
MAY HIS WORD SPEAK!!!
Colossians 3:16-17 (the Passion Translation)
Let the word of Christ live in you richly, flooding you with all wisdom. Apply the Scriptures as you teach and instruct one another with the Psalms, and with festive praises, and with prophetic songs given to you spontaneously by the Spirit, so sing to God with all your hearts!
Let every activity of your lives and every word that comes from your lips be drenched with the beauty of our Lord Jesus, the Anointed One. And bring your constant praise to God the Father because of what Christ has done for you!
Colossians 3:16-17 AMPC
Let the word [spoken by] Christ (the Messiah) have its home [in your hearts and minds] and dwell in you in [all its] richness, as you teach and admonish and train one another in all insight and intelligence and wisdom [in spiritual things, and as you sing] psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, making melody to God with [His] grace in your hearts.
And whatever you do [no matter what it is] in word or deed, do everything in the name of the Lord Jesus and in [dependence upon] His Person, giving praise to God the Father through Him.
Wow. THAT is a BOLD, HOLY WORD dear Mama Joyce!!!
you wrote,
“Any version without The Power of God in it is dead.” Believe My Report.
And yet a needed word….
I am an AMPLIFIED CLASSIC GAL, but have memorized a lot from the KJV as it’s easier!
When “warring in the spirit” it seems that it is the AMPC/ or KJV that I “hear” in my spirit…
However, I love the relational aspect of the Passion Translation. When I am counselling people it is often the translation that I use. It has such a beautiful way of bringing relational meaning to people, drawing us closer to the way that the Lord Jesus, Holy Spirit and Father relate to us…
In the notes of the Passion Translation, Brian Simmons is faithful to provide us with a great deal of context for meaning.
It’s interesting, I can often feel when a Translation is “missing” or a bit off, and Holy Spirit is faithful to provide me with the resources that confirm my understanding of the Word.
So bottom line…?
May we be RICH IN HIS WORD and HIS LOVE!!!
Very interesting Shelley! Thank you always for what you share.
I believe the spirit of God has showed you this. He gives you much discernment to hear His voice.
Even when something sounds off in the spirit to us, He will surely lead and guide. That is throwing the rule book away for sure. I love you precious lady! God bless you.