The Apostolic Elders Council Statement Regarding a False Trump Word
Finally, there is a Balanced, Wise and yet gracious Confrontation that has been made to [false] a Vision/ Word given on the eve of the Presidential Election in the USA.
HKP Note: Links to the false Word shall not be provided.
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Cindy Jacobs Denounces False Trump Prophecy | Bishop Bill Hamon Agrees
“A series of troubling prophetic words about President Trump and judgment on America, as well as Leviathan and the fall of democracy have been issued. Cindy Jacobs and the Apostolic Council of Prophetic Elders have denounced and condemned these words.”
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Message
I personally confronted the Word on the night it was given, and I called for its removal.
In turn I was verbally attacked for speaking against the Word.
So today, I’m encouraged to see and hear that finally the Apostolic Elders Council has publicly rebuked the Word and called it out for what it is — and asked for it to be retracted.
It’s time for purity in the Prophetic Ministry, for full exposure, transparency and accountability in the Prophetic Ministry.
It’s time the Prophetic Ministry to Heal and be Restored.
It’s time for ALL the Prophets to humble themselves under the Mighty Hand of God!
My Written Response
Date: 4th November 2024.
My Response to the Prophetic Word.
“This is one of the most appalling, disgusting, and defamatory so-called prophetic words concerning President Trump.
Frankly, I would have hesitated to release such words even over my worst enemy, let alone a man who has survived three assassination attempts and endured relentless abuse, hatred, and violence.
Most people would not have the strength to endure even a fraction of what President Trump has faced.
Yet, he has shown incredible courage and bravery, all for freedom, defending life in the womb, supporting Israel, and standing with the Church, despite much of the Church rejecting him.
This prophetic ministry has the audacity to release words that could potentially incite violence, then tried to justify it by citing violent language in the Bible, referencing Joel’s Army.
I am truly disgusted, appalled, and shocked by the timing of this so-called prophecy, released the night before the election when many Christians who follow this ministry are deciding who to vote for.
It seems calculated to sway voters away from President Trump or discourage them from voting at all.
I am deeply grieved by this behavior, which has no place in true prophetic ministry. It is disheartening to see such actions carried out in the name of God and authentic prophetic ministry, which is meant to reflect the redemptive heart of God.
Tonight, I pray for discernment and wisdom for all who listen to prophetic words during this time.
Let us seek out and support true prophetic voices that embody the love and grace of God, regardless of political affiliation. We must do better than this; the world is watching in horror.”
The Statement from the Apostolic Council Prophetic Elders
” Concerning a False Prophetic Word Targeting President Donald Trump ”
” 1 Corinthians 14:29 (Amplified Bible, AMP): “Let two or three prophets speak (as inspired by Holy Spirit), while the rest pay attention and weigh carefully what is said.”
The Apostolic Council of Prophetic Elders (A.C.P.E.) is a group of sixty seasoned prophets who have been meeting for 25 years. Several of the names on this document are pioneers of the modern-day prophetic movement. The ACPE was initially convened after several questionable national-level words were released — prophetic words that caused great confusion within the Body of Christ.
As a council of prophetic elders, our intent remains to hear the word of the Lord together and seek God’s wisdom to apply 1 Corinthians 4:29 when a questionable word is issued that could bring fear or confusion, neither of which God authors. It is for this purpose that we write this statement.
While we hear various words that seem questionable at best, we have never publicly called out a prophetic word as false in our 25-year history. However, when what is issued is so flagrantly false and carries the potential to incite violence and cause division in the name of God, we feel that we must denounce it as such as a group.
Further, there is a clear pattern of disturbing false prophecies being released by a minister who many identify as a prophet. These prophecies are being released to a global audience via social media. Since these harmful words were publicly released to a global audience, we feel they require a public response.
We will present them one by one:
1. The ‘God Punched Trump’ Prophecy
On November 4th, 2024 — Election Day Eve in the U.S. — a prophetic word regarding Trump’s presidency was issued by this minister. Additionally, on November 5th, 2024 (Election Day), this same minister released a separate word connecting a Trump presidency with God’s judgment on the people of God in America.
Excerpt from the November 4, 2024 posted video:
“God punched Donald Trump in the face and his teeth came out and there was a lot of blood. And that was quite symbolic of what he represented. The word of the Lord is this, that there would be a catastrophic time of him (Trump) leading and then he would be removed by God because he had become the champion of himself and then Trump fell over. His partnership with unredeemed sex, unredeemed power, and unredeemed money had opened the door for all sorts of evil to be released through him.”
2. The Trump Presidency Being God’s Judgment Prophecy
Excerpt from the November 5, 2024 posted video:
During the broadcast, it was also strongly inferred that prayer would not change the outcome of these words. They were settled.
“We, (referring to the minister and their team) believe that Trump is going to be a judgment on the people of God.”
3. The Leviathan Released Because of Trump Prophecy
Other words from within this minister’s group have been issued during this time saying a seven-headed Leviathan had been released across the world and brought chaos because of Trump. We also judge this to be a false prophecy that is based out of a political bias and hatred of President Trump stemming from a political world view that differs from his conservative stances.
Other “prophetic” revelations and declarations presented in the same media broadcast were also very concerning to us, but we will not specifically address them at this time.
4. The Judging the American Church Prophecy
In addition to the “God Punched Trump” statement, this same minister has also written and spoken on other occasions, declaring that the Church of America has exchanged spiritual power for political power. While this might be the case in some instances, no one we know has done that.
Secondly, the inference that the American Church doesn’t need Jesus now because they have Trump is also false. The churches and movements that we know of, and there are many, understand that Trump is only human and God reigns supreme. Trump is not God, and we are not glorifying him as such.
However, we also know that this election was not only a national election but carries a global impact — in other words, this election had implications that rippled through nations. Hundreds of thousands of people in the world understand the consequence of electing leaders who are for late-term abortion, gender transitioning of children paid for with taxpayers’ money, and other anti-Biblical positions.
5. The Tyranny and the Fall of Democracy in America Prophecy
Excerpt from the November 8, 2024 posted video:
“The Lord says, USA, the days of your greatest instability in your history are here and are now. The Lord says lawlessness, America, has been released upon your shores… There will be chaos. There will be loss of life. There will be riots. This will be the culmination of years, and the Lord says you will see in the natural realm a Romans chapter 1, where there is a giving over to tyranny, a giving over to lawlessness, a giving over to the full force of the moral rot …
“God is pressurizing and allowing a pressurization to come into nations where democracy doesn’t work. Democracy is about to not hold. Democracy is about to fail. It is about to become not the solution that it’s been for many decades. Some of the economic structures are going to fall and fold as God starts to say I will provoke you and your citizens to call on my name.”
The A.C.P.E. judges these words as false.
Our concerns are as follows:
- We believe these words are not inspired by the Holy Spirit and fail to pass the scriptural tests for discerning true New Testament prophetic words (1 Corinthians 14:3; Revelation 19:10b; John 6:63; 1 Corinthians 13; 1 Corinthians 14:1; Galatians 5:22,23 ).
- We believe the words represent harmful curses (Romans 12:14; Proverbs 18:21).
- We believe the words, if acted upon by those who are immature or unstable, could incite violent actions against the president of the United States of America. (See example in 1 Kings 21 regarding Jezebel and Naboth’s vineyard, illustrating how an evil word — when spoken and acted upon — can come to pass and bring about severe and fatal consequences.)
- We believe these words could produce a corporate agreement in a demonic plot, giving the enemy a landing strip and the power to fulfill the curse, thus bringing it to pass (Genesis 11:6; Mark 4:24).
1 Corinthians 13 strongly admonishes us to operate out of love. It is sandwiched between 1 Corinthians 12 and 14. The words in question do not reflect love.
Taking the Matthew 18 Approach
In accordance with Matthew 18, we have approached some of these prophetic voices with our concerns about these words. We asked them to retract these presumptuous and dangerous words, which we have deemed to have been prompted out of the wrong spirit. So far there does not seem to be any willingness to listen to the counsel of the voices that this person not long ago considered to be mothers and fathers in their lives.
Our desire was to address these issues privately and hope for a resolution that will bring healing to the person and the Body of Christ. Unfortunately, those efforts have not yielded fruit.
Due to the serious nature of the words being shared publicly — and how they could be used to either release a curse that one may unwittingly agree with or even inspire one to fulfill its violent rhetoric — we felt it was important to make a public statement about our views of these public proclamations.
We had hoped that there would at least be an acknowledgment that it was not wise to release these words publicly but rather to submit them to mature oversight and perhaps intercession. We are deeply concerned for the members of the Body of Christ who have been hurt, confused, and jarred by the context of the word and the dogmatic tone in which it was delivered. As a result of this grievous concern, and our deep love for this ministry and those who heard the word, the Holy Spirit directed us to issue this statement. In humility and in the fear of the Lord we do so.
Speaking the Truth in Love
We love the prophetic and believe it has the potential to bring God’s purposes into the earth like nothing else can, but we also are zealous for its integrity and ministry to be pure and ministered in proper protocol and wisdom.
We are praying for those involved in releasing these controversial and detrimental words and hope they will move in a rightful and mature way to heal the land and not speak division and destruction. We love them, pray for them, and believe God will move in their lives.
Let’s Pray
Father, we love your voice. We believe you have ordained a new day for America and that you will use newly re-elected President Trump to help bring this to pass. We believe in your mandate to disciple nations and ask you to help us to fulfill this commission! We love you and your kingdom and your people. We know that you love your prophets and need them to speak your word in purity and integrity as never before. We are praying for every nation to turn to you and receive your blessing! God, we ask that You bless us with reformation, revival, awakening, and a great harvest in this hour. Bless America and heal our Land!
Signed,
Mike and Cindy Jacobs | Bishop Bill Hamon | Bishop Joseph Garlington | Tom and Jane Hamon | Sharon Stone-Black and Greg Black | Chuck Pierce | | Dutch Sheets | Barbara Yoder | James Goll | Patricia King | Todd White | Arleen Westerhof | Katherine Ruonala | Matt and Kim Lockett | Michele Jacobs | Tommy and Miriam Evans | Larry Sparks | Matt Sorger | Jon and Jolene Hamill | Anthony and Melissa Medina | Barbie Breathitt | Rebecca Greenwood | Eleanor and Robert Roehl | Faytene Grasseschi | Herman Martir | Mark Gonzales | Mary Glazier | Patricia Bootsma | Rick and Patricia Riddings | Stacey Campbell | Steven and Rene Springer” (© generals.org) ”
Blessings to you all.
~ by Veronika West
I don’t know if the prophecy by Emma Stark is true or not. But I do believe the concerns she raised are wise and keeping with scripture. Trump has been given an almost Messianic status in some Christian circles in the US, while at the same time so many Christians have turned a blind eye to his sinful behaviour. Emma Stark’s comparison between Trump and Emperor Constantine is striking. Europe knows too well what happened when the state and the church got together in Europe, but there are those in the US who seem to be abandoning their commitment to separation of church and state, and instead are putting their hope in politicians instead of the Lord.
Well everyone have something to say but what needs to be said is thank You Lord for the people who called out this “so called prophet”it was about time ! So many “prophets” out there that are not calling to be one, that goes to pastors also. This is just the beginning God is cleaning house and if you are not called to be a prophet, pastor etc. repent and ask God to show you what you are supposed to do in His kingdom. We need to thank God for the REAL prophets : Veronika West, Amanda Grace, Jonathan Cahn, Dr. Patricia Green and very few others. Thank you Veronika for being obedient to God’s Word, keep on going! Blessings!
Well this is sad news, thank you for sharing beautiful lady, I’m going into my prayer closet right now.
I don’t know who these words came from, I’ve never heard this prophecy, but God knows so I’ll be praying.
I pray that ALL, BOTH those who voice that they have recieved a word from the Lord and those hearing and reading it be constantly overwhelmed with a sense of THE FEAR OF THE LORD. We should Tread carefully with an awe of exactly WHO HE IS! In that way we will be ready to recognize that NOT ONE OF US “ knows it all”! God is so GREAT and as the Bible says His ways are not our ways. . . THATS WHY HE HAS GIVEN US HIS HOLY SPIRIT SO WE, INDIVIDUALLY can recognize and discern His voice when spoken. ANYONE CAN CLAIM ia word from God, but God in His love has given us His spirit to guide us. His attributes are Love, forgiveness and Mercy on the foundation of Truth and Justice. He is ALWAYS THE SAME NEVER DOUBLE MINDED! He doesn’t tell one person one thing and then another something completely different!! Beware such! I am thankful to know there are mature prophets (tried and true through time and experience) that can call out false or even questionable words and ministers. With that I’m overwhelmingly thankful that my own spirit can bear witness and seek out through scripture, prayer, and knowing the character of my Savior, HIS TRUTH! May we be United as one in HIS REAL TRUTH!
Kirk, I would like to use just one example in the Bible. David’s ascension to kingship was largely due to his military prowess, defeating enemies like Goliath and conquering Jerusalem, which he established as the capital of Israel, a clear political act, alongside his religious role as king chosen by God.
You could also get to know about the 7 Mountain Mandate where God is bringing back righteousness. If we want to see more righteousness and more souls being saved, we cannot separate ourselves from the heart of God for this Nation and other Nations.
The Prophets spoke out against what was wrong, and it’s very unwise to think that they don’t have and also prophecy the Deep Things of GOD.
I pray that God will give you a download of your own personal revelation of who HE is. In His Love.
I have a “word” for the apostolic council of self promotion and control, 2020 AIN’T OVER YET. Until the ACPE be called to the carpet for what they did to true prophets after the 2020 election steal,their rebuke of a prophetic word holds no weight. Has anyone forgotten the call from them to recant, retract, and repent over the accurate prophecies of Trump winning the 2020 election?
Getting leaders to sign a petition and shaming prophets for not falling in line and submitting to their council? Who are these people? Who made them generals and the overseer of prophets around the world? To all the prophets who got it right and did not recant what God has spoken, bless you for your bravery and not abandoning your call and capitulating to this ” apostolic sorority” This holiday season I suggest CROW be served in place of turkey. Blessings
That was not the ACPE, but rather another group spear headed by Jeremiah Johnson and others… two differnt entities.
Jeremiah has since repented of being a part of that, but the damage was done, consequences of that failure is his voice will never be in a place of great influence as it was ever again..
God will not allow his true prophetic voice to marred or polluted.
and in this hour he is raising a standard that will cause only those he approves of speaking for him to be in places of influence.
Thank you Pastor Brent for your correction and insight.
Very disrespectful. None of the real prophets called anyone a false prophet in 2020. There were no public comments of falsehood such as as this. What is being said here is that the prophecy of what is spoken over America is NOT from the Spirit of God. This also is a very angry, ungodly spirit, and it’s people as these who really need soul searching. May the Lord Jesus have mercy on your soul.
Except there is no evidence the 2020 election was stolen. Trump lost in 2020, but won in 2024.
God has been calling for repentance and changes in the church, for a long time. More and more ministers, so called prophets and other leaders will be exposed. Judgement is coming. The clock is ticking…..tick tock.
I continue to watch and pray.
I am supposed to be a powerful warrior. I was designed by God to stand in the gap for the Church. I am designed to protect all of you from the hordes of Satan. But I am struggling. So, I come here to find words from God that give me strength and help me to get back up. I need to get in the fight again for all your sakes. Please know that I am no human’s enemy. Bring God’s heart to me. Bring God’s healing to all of us. You cannot know how much good you will do for the Kingdom to stand me back up on my feet. There are a lot of us out here who need you. Please speak Words that build us up, and God, through our restored ministries, will repay you a hundred fold.
Remember when asked about taxes Jesus said show me a coin? Give to Ceasar what is Ceasar’s and to God what is Gods. Remember when the zealots of Christ’s time thought that Jesus was going to be a political figure that would galvanize a rebellion against Rome? Well, that was not the Kingdom that Jesus came to build. I am tired of hearing politics from the pulpits of America! I am tired of hearing politics in prophecy. Bring us the deep things of God. Help bring back repentance. The lost are going to Hell. Help us to bring in the Final Harvest before it’s too late for them!! God DELIVER us from all prophecy that is political! I am sick of it. And to be honest, I think all of you are better than that. Jesus Christ has already spoken about political affiliations. He had NONE! These “Words” from God are not building up the body. Please everyone, focus on God.
You are absolutely deceived.
That very statement you quoted actually solidifies that Jesus was very much interfering and involving himself in the political realm, whoever held the position Ceasar in the Roman Empire was considered a god.. He would even hold the title pontifex maximus meaning greatest High Priest… this title was a direct contradiction to Jesus whom would through his suffering, death and resurrection would become the High Priest of Heaven of the Order of Melchizedek..
When Jesus said render unto Ceasars what is Caesars, and unto God’s what is Gods.. he was dethroning Ceasar as God and placing him in his rightful place of a man.. and exalting that their is no God but Yahweh…
Thank you Pastor Brent for your correction and insight.
If you believe that I am truly deceived, then, I assume that you are already praying for me. If there is a different interpretation for those parts of the Gospels that I have paraphrased, then, I also assume that you are praying for me as well. I will pray for both of you. I won’t be praying for you to come around to my point of view. But let us all pray to God the Father in the name of the Son for the wisdom and guidance that only comes through the ministry of the Holy Spirit who leads us into all truth. If God speaks to my heart and confirms your testimonies, then, I will return to this Word and share the revelations that were shared with me. You are both members of the Church. God instructs us to love every member of his Church the way that he loves the Church. Thank you for being who you are and sharing your beliefs and understanding about God’s Word!!! I will not take your comments lightly. Thank you again!
I will be praying for repentance and to walk in the love of Jesus.
Thank God for Dr. Kynan Bridges and the apostolic council for stand up against this false prophecy! The so called man of God who made this prophecy should resign, amen! Or at the least repent publicly! Amen! Yours truly, Dana.
Anen!