Rapture or Not? (Part 2)
See also Part 1: “Rapture or Not?“
Good morning to all.
You will see here in this link below, Part 1. At the very last in the article I had concluded with Hebrews 11.
“Rapture or Not?“
Now we will start first with these scriptures to show that Chapter 11 indeed was talking about the ones who have gone on before us.
“Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us, looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds.” Hebrews 12:1-3.
To say being a Christian is a most glorious walk is so, but it is a road often times less traveled.
“Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.” Matthew 7:13-14.
We must be born again.
“Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.” 1 Peter 1:23.
We want to put line upon line and precept upon precept.
“Now I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. They are not of the world, even as I AM not of the world. Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world. And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth. Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word” John 17:15-20.
( Here please allow me to say: We must see where the ‘Rapture theory’ comes from for the very first time?
In 1830 a woman named Margaret McDonald claimed to see a series of visions concerning a rapture. It caught on and John Darby claimed it also and others started promoting it. Also others in strong leadership began to back it up.
This video I only found this morning for the very first time but found it very well put together! This reveals a lot with the scriptures this man gave. His name is Dalton Thomas.
Again I just watched this video this morning but please follow along! Please read the first Word posted; all the scriptures and the video. It will help put it all in place. We need to stay with the Word of God. )
Four of Dalton’s conclusions. Please know this is just the ‘gist’ of what he spoke in the video:
- The word rapture is not in the Bible.
- It was never taught in Church history before 1830.
- You don’t find the rapture taught outside of the Western world, basically.
- Message of escape not taught from Jesus’ messages.
Let’s Read:
“50Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit The Kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 51Behold, I shew you a mystery; we shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.” 1 Corinthians 15:50-52.
“1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: 14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
16 Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace, 17 Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work.” 2 Thessalonians 2:1-17.
God bless you as we seek truth, and expose the error that has slipped into the Church of being “raptured out”.
See also Part 1: “Rapture or Not?“
~ Joyce D. McGuire
My name is Joyce D. McGuire, called to work in and for the Kingdom of God! To lead we must try to follow Jesus Christ closely. That is my heart. I am a Chaplain to the prisons; prophetic intercessor by His grace; author; and a Mother in the Kingdom of God. To many I am simply Mama Joyce. Some favorite verses of mine are Matthew 11:28-30.
Absolutely true. Personally, I see prayer as a powerful tool which is the bridge & fuel that enables us to run our heavenly race well while here on earth. So, No matter how holy any one thinks he/she is, you must pray without ceasing cause you’re bound to make mistakes. But, when we confess our sins through prayers & genuine repentance, God’s Mercy/ Grace will be there to forgive & help us. More wisdoms from above on you Jay. I replied late cause of poor network connections at my end please. Thank you.
More wisdom is always good, one can never have enough. Some take Holy Spirit like a vaccination you get the shot and we have done that, this produces a speech pattern that when ask Holy Spirit moves from being a person to an article. The baptism of Holy Spirit (HIS NAME) must be an everyday occurrence if we are going to be successful Christians. This decision every day to seek first the Kingdom of God, the place where you watch every word where you know that thoughts are enemies that try to distract you out of Gods Kingdom to get you thinking and talking like the old you resurrecting him and attempting to suffocate who you have been made. But God is faithful He never condemns He never leaves you He never writes you off you have been made new you are His child you have been made righteous not of yourself but by the one you accepted Jesus. We can notice right here that Jesus was also tempted after He was HOLY SPIRIT filled yet without sin, this is why who we have been made is not about our performance but Christianity is all about Jesus’s performance, this truth is reassured to us every day by Holy Spirit as we communicate with Heaven in tongues
Mama, am so glad to have you back in the House with. I felt your absence. I was even worried about you at a point but I continued to pray for more strength & grace for you. May God keep you & grant you more wisdoms to run the race & end well in Jesus name. Thanks a lot for your kind comments on the vision I shared. you were absolutely right. I say a huge thanks for your prayers & concerns for me & my family always Mama. God will reward your kindness, prayers & all you do for countless souls & in God’s vineyard. Like prophet Elijah, you are not yet done with your assignments even when you’re beginning to give some to others to take over. Greetings to your beloved grand daughter, other family members & well wishers. Bye Mama.
God bless you Adams and thank you for your kindness and comments.
Absolutely, I wish to flow in the Holy Ghost when and how the Lord directs.
Thank you also for the prayers as I continue to hold you and your family up to the Lord!
Praise God He alone is worthy of all praise and glory. All of us in Christ Jesus will meet if not down here, on the other side one glorious day. We will persevere and be faithful till the very end by the grace of God.
Yes, my cousin is a spirit filled person/Christian.
Adam what would you say was the difference between your cousin’s relationship with Jesus and your relationship
Dear Jay, thanks for reading my lengthy vision & your question. In sincerity, I never had any real relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ before this vision even when i was always going to Church with my family. But my cousin had long before the vision established a good relationship with our Lord Jesus Christ. God Bless you.
Adam when you say your cousin had a lengthy relationship with Jesus, would you describe your cousin as a Spirit-filled (tongue talking) Christian. The debate on this blog is about evidence that there is no rapture it is a made-up term even though transport is a synonym
Page 2. The Great Chaos and people Changing very fast. At the sound of the trumpet, I looked up at the cloud & saw 3 White bird with trumpets im their mouths blowing. The 3 birds turned to countless beautiful angels each blowing their trumpets . Then, i saw the smiley face of our Lord Jesus Christ appearing faintly at first in the cloud, next his shoulders & his robe gradually. This brought great confusion where I stood looking at the cloud. I saw many people from nowhere changed & disappeared. Everything was happening too fast before my eyes . My cousin had her clothes changed & disappeared. Those of us who were not yet changed were scampering & panicking. This was when I started crying out for Mercy to our Lord Jesus Christ . At this point, the huge White man reappeared & told me to lay on my belly with my eyes at the cloud unto Jesus. As I did then my clothes got removed & I was completely naked without shame. Next, a satanic man came from no where & started dragging me to come with him to hell. The huge man tried to stop him but he wouldn’t stop as he shouted angrily that I deceived him & i made him to go to hell while he was on earth . The White man man defended me, & forcefully rescued. End of vision. I stand firmly on 1 Corinthians 15 vs 50-52 & 1 Thessalonians 4 vs 16. This vision is over 15 years. This is not a make believe story brethren. Please pardon my African English. Thanks